THE NEGLIGENT EFFECTS NEGLIGENCE

 

Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:54:30 -0500
To: microsound <microsound@hyperreal.org>
From: david turgeon <dt@electrocd.com>
Subject: Re: THE NEW NEGLIGENT ART
Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113195250.02040880@www.electrocd.com>


>http://www.thisistheonlyart.com/negligence/
>[3] We have forgotten Art History. Art History is a dead weight. It is
>sometimes nice to look at pretty pictures in the Louvre and funny films of
>people nailing themselves to VW Bugs. But we have forgotten all about it.
>None of it matters. We're negligent of it all. And we're negligent even of
>our own Negligence. Which is not to say that we simply don't care. DADA
>was about dissing Art. Surrealism was all about attacking Bourgeois Life
>in the Name of the Unconscious. That's nice. Fluxus was the last one to
>try and pull it all together. We've forgotten what it even was these
>people were trying to pull. We weren't even born then.
>[...]
>[5] Forgetfulness is a Virtue. Stealing from the Vaults is a Virtue. These
>Virtues have no Histories. They only echo in the Here and Now. There's
>nothing wrong about yesterday. There is no lack: only desire.

so what is negligent art then? an intellectualised version of naive art,
that is, without the obligatory 'naive aesthetic' which eventually took
precedence over the original concept? (but was there ever an original
concept, or is it another fiction of art history?)

this new term doesn't seem to mean 'empty art' as it encourages the
pillaging of the vaults of art. it does however maintain: 'we've forgotten
what it even was these people were trying to pull.' it would be
interesting to know whether this is a simple statement of fact, of a motto
for the future? i.e. do we make it a law to refuse to understand?
but then, 'forgetfulness is a virtue.' & 'there is no lack: only
desire.' what a strange ring to these words... at this very moment, such
'bold' statements seem less (to me) like a bona fide aesthetic proposal &
rather more like a conceptual illustration of a, dare i say, 'political'
situation which very much forms our common, present time. this is an art
piece disguised as a manifesto, as most manifestoes are or should be.
& if it's really a serious manifesto, then it can't be for anything but a
general terminology encompassing the efforts of dada, anti-art, fluxus,
independent group, futurism, 1910 russian avant-garde, automatism, (some)
surrealism, basically, any art movement that refused or ignored art history
as an aesthetic/conceptual guide.

that being said, we're delving on utopian grounds here. their refusal or
ignorance was never truly 'total'; in every artist's work, no matter how
'forgetful of the past', you can trace back a number of sources (i.e.
'influences'), not necessarily obvious or taken directly from art history,
but quite simply bits & pieces from the artist's universe. at any rate, as
a pen & ink artist myself i mostly ignored the surrealists but i can't
escape the lessons i got from miro... (of course, i learned the most from
klee, but that's because he reads like a cheat sheet...)

have a nice day
~ david
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:24:04 +0000
To: microsound@hyperreal.org
From: "Keith Labun" <keith_lab@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: THE NEW NEGLIGENT ART
Message-ID: <F71WU63RBRhmkNSiMUl0000eb76@hotmail.com>

>>http://www.thisistheonlyart.com/negligence/
>>[3] We have forgotten Art History. Art History is a dead weight. It is
>>sometimes nice to look at pretty pictures in the Louvre and funny films of
>>people nailing themselves to VW Bugs. But we have forgotten all about it.
>>None of it matters. We're negligent of it all. And we're negligent even of
>>our own Negligence. Which is not to say that we simply don't care. DADA
>>was about dissing Art. Surrealism was all about attacking Bourgeois Life
>>in the Name of the Unconscious. That's nice. Fluxus was the last one to
>>try and pull it all together. We've forgotten what it even was these
>>people were trying to pull. We weren't even born then.
>>[...]
>>[5] Forgetfulness is a Virtue. Stealing from the Vaults is a Virtue. These
>>Virtues have no Histories. They only echo in the Here and Now. There's
>>nothing wrong about yesterday. There is no lack: only desire.
>

These are expressions of an over-priviledged individual(s---though i doubt
it's _plural_) who seems to have never travelled, spoken to or read a text
of any person(s) who have suffered from the ignorence and oppresion of
others, namely colonialists and fascists. These statements are extremely
uninformed. They priviledge the priviledged. utter greedy free-for-me
will-to-exploit capitalist crypto-fascist fucking shit.

the last sentences are one of the worst appropriations of eastern philosophy
+ deleuzian/etc philosophy of desire. yah, collapse texts and just fucking
masquerade, yah, that's cool. :( get fucking educated! This statements seem
to know of only ONE art history, the one about big dicks! surrealism "an
attack on the Bourgeois Life in the Name of Unconcious"---YAH RIGHT!!!!
WHO'S uncoucious? and what "NAME", freud? or you and your 'buddies'(boyz
club)?

if forgetfullness is a virtue(yah...right), have you ever heard of the
virtue of voluntary death? try it loser!

jnvn

p.s. david---glad u said miro + klee. they obviously have totally different
motivations than dali, etc. rock on.
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 00:33:14 -0600
To: "microsound" <microsound@hyperreal.org>
From: "Christopher Sorg" <csorg@enteract.com>
Subject: RE: [microsound] THE NEW NEGLIGENT ART
Message-ID: <NGBBLBABILAGDBDEBNHMCEGPCBAA.csorg@enteract.com>

The NEW NEGLIGENT ART is an old manifesto... ;)

Chris
http://www.thisistheonlyart.com/negligence/
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To: microsound <microsound@hyperreal.org>
From: david turgeon <dt@electrocd.com>
Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: THE NEW NEGLIGENT ART
Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114133823.01e950c0@www.electrocd.com>

jon,

>These are expressions of an over-priviledged individual(s---though i doubt
>it's _plural_) who seems to have never travelled, spoken to or read a text
>of any person(s) who have suffered from the ignorence and oppresion of
>others, namely colonialists and fascists. These statements are extremely
>uninformed. They priviledge the priviledged. utter greedy free-for-me
>will-to-exploit capitalist crypto-fascist fucking shit.

that's what i was thinking too, though i suppose the 'manifesto' is partly
a joke, so i doubt crypto-fascism was really the intent.

but if it's serious, one might wish to go the extra mile & call it THE NEW
BUSH FAMILY ART?

have a nice day
~ david